#include<iostream>
#include<string>
using namespace std;
string x,y;
int x1,y1;
int main(){
getline(cin,x);
getline(cin,y);
x1 = x.length() ;
y1 = y.length() ;
int i;
for(i = 0; i < x1; i++){
x[i] = toupper(x[i]);
}
for(i = 0; i < y1; i++){
y[i] = toupper(y[i]);
}
int j;
int t = 0,ans = 0;
for(i = 0; i <= y1 - x1; i++){
for(j = 0; j < x1; j++){
if(y[i+j] != x[j])break;
if(i > 0 && y[i-1] != ' ')break;
if(j == x1 -1){
t++;
if(t == 1)ans = i;
}
}
}
if(t == 0){
cout << -1 ;
return 0;}
cout << t << " " << ans << endl;
return 0;
}