#include <iostream>
#include <cstring>
using namespace std;
string s2, s1;
int main (){
	int n = 0, count = 0, i = 0, pos = -1;
 	bool is;
	getline(cin, s1, '\n');
	getline(cin, s2);
//	while(s1[i] != '0'){
//		n++;                     //a【】数组元素数量
//		i++;
//	}
	i = 0;
	while(i < s2.length()){  //        //to too?
		if((s2[i] == s1[0]-32 || s2[i] == s1[0] + 32 )|| s2[i] == s1[0]){
			if(i>0){
				if(s2[i-1]!=' '){ //是否是第一个1字母
					i++;
					continue;
				}
			}
		int z = i+1;
			for(int j = 1; j < s1.length(); j++){          //
				if(s2[z] == s1[j] || s2[z] == s1[j] -32 || s2[z] == s1[j] +32)    //
//					if((s2[z+1] <='z'&&s2[z+1]>='a')||(s2[z+1]<='Z'&&s2[z+1]>='A'))
//						is = false;
//					else
						is = true;
				else{
					is = false;
					break;
				}
				z++;
		}
			if((s2[z]<='z'&&s2[z]>='a')||(s2[z]<='Z'&&s2[z]>='A'))//是否是最后一个字符
						is = false;
		if(is == true)
		{
		count++;
		if(pos == -1)
			pos = i;
		}
	}
	i++;
}
	if(count == 0)
		cout << -1;
	else
		cout << count << " " << pos;

}